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Thread: 2000 Z8 (#60020) Another DE car comes up on EBay without proper disclosure...

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    Exclamation 2000 Z8 (#60020) Another DE car comes up on EBay without proper disclosure...

    As usual with these cars, this one is totally misrepresented in the EBay posting.

    A link to the story on the Z8 Driving Experience here.
     
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    Z8 Ate My Homework! Norcal's Avatar
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    And LSD! (Not). Low price, though?

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    5 days still left to bid, so I expect it'll go for a lot more. Someone poor chap's going to buy this, discover the board, then realize what he's really bought!
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    Beyond the Valley of Z8 Madness Z-acht's Avatar
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    It was delivered as:

    S902A
    Sonderkontrolle Pressefahrzeuge Special inspection press vehicles
    Ton
    1 of the 71 original Dutch sold cars (jetblack/red)

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    My guess is that claim about "since new" is because the car was never titled until that owner. A bit of splitting hairs. On one hand, we drove those DE cars HARD. On the other hand, BMW took really good care of them and replaced wear and tear items frequently.

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    Don't be so sure on the LSD- the window sticker makes that claim. I bet this car doesn't have a LSD.

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    8 Hours left on the auction - still at $103.000 with 3 bids.
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    At that price, I'm temped to buy it as a "driver."
    C.A. Cardenas (AKA Dan)2003 (last one?) Z8 - Hellrot / Sport Rot Original Owner - Munich Tourist Delivery-- Others --1988 M6 - 32K mi. - Original Owner1989 DINAN 750iL - 73K mi. - Original Owner1998 M3 - 63K mi. - Original Owner2015 X5 (F15) Diesel - Daily Driver2008 Porsche Turbo Cab - 9K mi. (Mezger motor/6-sp. manual)

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    "Beater z8" !!!

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    I know, I'm kind of tempted too! ;-)
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    Beyond the Valley of Z8 Madness Z-acht's Avatar
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    Amazing result! Anyone here?
    Ton
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    That really is a good deal, so long as the soft top and all the other little things that could be wrong are good.

    (The car sold to someone in Germany.)
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    That really says something about the floor for Z8 values. No one should take less than 105 for their car unless it has some unfortunate circumstances.

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    Is there a surefire way to tell if the car was a DE car? Do you have to see the the window sticker or run the VIN thru a BMW dealer or something?

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    Beyond the Valley of Z8 Madness Z-acht's Avatar
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    The VIN should show it but the information is only available to BMW AG/NA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andymlow View Post
    Is there a surefire way to tell if the car was a DE car? Do you have to see the the window sticker or run the VIN thru a BMW dealer or something?
    My recollection is that the first 37 cars were used for Z8 Driving Experience events, so look for US VINs ending AH00001 - AH00037.
    My Best,

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    You guy's are really quick to red flag any low VIN number cars. I'd make sure you've got something documenting the car as a DE vehicle before sending the new owner into a spin. I've got number 0024 which has been documented as delivered to the west coast as a press car, never registered before me and was never used as a DE car.

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    Indeed, within those low VIN's some were press and even BMW executive cars, but most of the press cars also ended up in the DE because cars usually only stay in the press fleet for 12 to 18 months at the maximum. I'd say if a was car auctioned off after 18-24 months and registered in 03-04 then it was a press only car, but if first registration was late 05-06 then it most likely was sold at auction with all the other DE cars, which would give a pretty high indication it was back in Alabama with that fleet.
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    Fair enough Ron and thank you Andrew for the additional clarifications.
    My Best,

    Ed

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    Yes, a person with access was able to look at the full history of my car before purchase and it was one of the original press cars that went onto a BMW executive, then offered for sale.

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    Oh I owned vin 0037. It was not a DE car. It was however the sixth car sold in US.
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