20" BMW Motorsport 'Style 101' wheels

**macfly** · July 6th 2010, 18:21

I have exactly that set up, and no front rubs. Is it rubbing on the inside (spring) or outside (body)?

**Norcal** · July 6th 2010, 19:04

I'm leaving for Peter Pan now. Will be there until about 12:30. C you there if you come down early.

**Carter Rise** · July 6th 2010, 20:45

The inside lip of the wheel and the Pirelli are both contacting the strut. You can actually feel the drag while on the lift when you turn the wheel.

My tech is thinking 5mm spacer...

Any thoughts?

**macfly** · July 6th 2010, 20:51

It seems unusual but I guess every wheel is slightly different, however because none of the rest of us have had this experience I'd suggest checking the seating and positioning of the spring before doing a spacer.

**Norcal** · July 7th 2010, 01:47

Do you have Brembos? When talking with Matt today, he mentioned that the hats on the brembos were slightly thinner than the stock brakes by a few mm, which might bring the wheels closer to the struts. He's checking mine for any rubbing that might have taken place during recent "Spirited driving"

**macfly** · July 7th 2010, 02:16

I have the Brembo's and no rubbing? However 5mm spacers at the front might not be a terrible change to make, but be aware it might make the car a little more prone to oversteer.

**Norcal** · July 7th 2010, 02:52

Then back off the rear bar by one hole and probably have better grip in the rear (less DSC?).

**Carter Rise** · July 7th 2010, 19:23

Thanks for the suggestions. No brembos (yet). Matt at Peter Pan reports that these wheels have a 24mm offset vs. 20mm stock and that brings the inner wheel lip very close to the strut. He thinks the Alpina strut and the stock strut are the same diameter, so that should not be the cause of the problem. I did run about 100 miles with the 20" Motorsport wheels before putting the Alpina suspension in. While I had some rubbing in the back, there didn't seem to be any in the front. Strange...

I have ordered 5mm spacers and extended lug bolts from Turner Motorsports, so we will try that. I appreciate the suggestion on checking the spring seating and placement and will do that right away.

**Z8doc** · July 8th 2010, 05:15

Although the Michelins and Pirellis share the same size (255/35R/20) that size is only footprint to sidewall ratio and says nothing about the actual true width of the tire from outer sidewall to inner sidewall as this will vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. If you look closely at Andrew's original pics of the Pirellis compared to the MSP2s, you can see what I am talking about. I have the Beyern Type 5 wheels, which have the exact offset as the OEM wheels and the OEM Alpina wheels. I was wrong in another post elsewhere in the forum regarding the Beyerns and the motorsport 20" having the same offset as you are correct that they do have 24mm offset compared to 20mm OEM. With the Beyerns and Pirellis, I have no rubbing front or rear after about 280 highway miles on them. I am using the OEM Z8 Struts (Sachs) but have Dinan Stage 3 springs and sways, Dinan CASTER plates (the do not affect camber) and the Performance package plates.

**Carter Rise** · July 8th 2010, 20:33

It looks like the spacers have solved the problem. I won't know for sure until I have a chance to take it out myself, but the tech reports no more rubbing. Thanks everyone for your advice.

**Carter Rise** · August 11th 2010, 20:47

Thanks for all the help, guys. The car is home and it drives much, much better than stock. It corners flatter and rides a lot better. We needed 5mm spacers in front and -2 camber on the rear to make the 20 inch wheels work. The folks at Peter Pan were a huge help, too.

I have (tried to) attach some pics. I am optimistic they will magically appear.

Carter

Z8Mania · August 11th 2010, 21:29

They worked and the car looks great. Glad its working out

**macfly** · August 12th 2010, 06:51

I love the wheels, but be very careful with them, I was at Peter Pan today, and three of my four have small rim distortions in them from normal Californian back roads. I hope you are also running them with the Alpina suspension, as I think the stock compression may be too harsh for the car.

**redz8** · August 12th 2010, 18:12

I agree with the ride harshness. I had the same exact wheels with Z8 suspension on my previous car. If I ever decide on 20" wheels again, the complete Alpina suspension will come first.

But, IMO, the standard Z8 wheels are hard to beat.

**Carter Rise** · August 12th 2010, 20:04

We put in the full euro Alpina suspension + camber plates. The ride is much better.

**macfly** · August 13th 2010, 00:00

Well done, it is an absolute must do with the 20's, I can't emphasize this enough.

**Carter Rise** · August 26th 2010, 00:34

It looks like I have a slow leak in one of my rears. Here's a stupid question. How do I remove the hub cap on these 20" motorsport wheels? I looked for a slot for a screwdriver to pop them off, but nothing is readily apparent. Thanks.

Carter

**macfly** · August 26th 2010, 01:35

I would check in your tool area under trunk base, as your shop may well have put it in there. It looks like this, and fits over the caps with the same 17mm nut head that will loosen the wheel.

The right way to remove it is to rotate it, not to pry it.

If you have no other option I'd use a towel and your hand, turn it anti-clockwise and it'll pop off, but it is a pretty tight click on/off. I wouldn't pry it unless it is a last resort as you could damage either the cap, or your rim.

Here is a pic of the tool, so you know what you're looking for.

**Carter Rise** · August 26th 2010, 01:39

Am I glad I didn't just start prying! (my naturally incliniation, of course)

Many thanks

**thegunguy** · August 26th 2010, 05:18

Sorry to give bad advice. I was assuming they were the same as the standard cap.

**Carter Rise** · August 27th 2010, 03:33

Not in the trunk. Off to the dealer - it's always something! I can actually read the part number off the photo, so it will go smoothly. These cars are so rare in Virginia that this board is invaluable.

**Klaney** · September 11th 2011, 00:11

Just installed the 20" Motorsports w the new Super Sports.
Drives great...love the tires! Super responsive but ride
really not compromised? Still as quiet and smooth as
The 18" pilots. No rubs noticed at this point.

**Z8doc** · September 11th 2011, 01:45

Originally Posted by Klaney

Just installed the 20" Motorsports w the new Super Sports.
Drives great...love the tires! Super responsive but ride
really not compromised? Still as quiet and smooth as
The 18" pilots. No rubs noticed at this point.

let's see it!!

**///M Blitz** · September 15th 2011, 15:44

The Z8 was made for the 20" Motorsport wheels and vice-versa. They not only give the car a more menacing look because of the wider stance, but the mesh style wheels are just the ticket for the Z8's retro look.

Z8Mania · September 15th 2011, 17:04

I agree the spokes give a more retro feel. The wheels look great. I prefer the Alpina wheels but these do compliment the car well. Good luck and congratulations!

**keith1998** · May 27th 2021, 16:46

Can someone advise meaning of "CDV removed"?

**Musta10000** · May 27th 2021, 17:07

Originally Posted by keith1998

Can someone advise meaning of "CDV removed"?

Keith - CDV is the Clutch Delay Valve that many of us have removed and replaced with a "dummy" in order to not have the clutch slip when changing gears. Here is a thread tells the whole story:

http://www.bmwz8.us/forum/engine-dri...valve-133.html

**DeadMansCurve** · October 20th 2021, 14:50

I thought I had set of 101s lined up for my new (to me) 2002 Z8 but unfortunately not the case.

Anyone have any leads on where I could pick up a set?

Thanks!

**boomster** · October 21st 2021, 12:59

Originally Posted by DeadMansCurve

I thought I had set of 101s lined up for my new (to me) 2002 Z8 but unfortunately not the case.

Anyone have any leads on where I could pick up a set?

Thanks!

Here is a set on EBAY. Might require refurbishment. https://www.ebay.com/itm/18476364524...temCondition=4

**DeadMansCurve** · October 23rd 2021, 21:54

Thanks!I have a set coming from stockwheels.com. Obviously not new, but they warrant their re-furb work. I actually still don't have the car. It's in Reno. Waiting for it to be shipped.

**TheJQ** · February 10th 2022, 17:32

If anyone has any idea where I can find a single BMW Motorsport 'Style 101' front wheel (20"x9") please let me know. I've been looking for a while. Thanks!

**macfly** · February 10th 2022, 17:50

Are they no longer available through BMW?

**TheJQ** · February 10th 2022, 17:59

Apparently not. Site says "discontinued." https://www.bmwpartsdirect.com/oem-p...oy-36116757370

**2112** · February 11th 2022, 17:16

Sorry to hijack but what was the other factory wheel some were using, the concave multiple spoke 1-piece?

Was it off an M6?

**macfly** · February 11th 2022, 21:37

I think you mean these - http://www.bmwz8.us/forum/tires-whee...eels-1234.html

**2112** · February 12th 2022, 00:05

yup those are the ones.

Are all the M5 wheels the same fit as those??

BMW M5 Wheels | BMW M5 Rims | Factory OEM Wheels (finishlinewheels.com)

**macfly** · February 12th 2022, 02:53

I don't know, I never had a set.

**TheJQ** · September 29th 2022, 18:31

I finally found one more front to complete the set. Now I just need to get them refinished in gunmetal grey. Not sure if I should bite the bullet and upgrade the suspension as well. Thoughts?

**macfly** · September 29th 2022, 19:23

If you're doing 20" rims the Alpina suspension is a real must have, it is a huge improvement in roadholding, ride and comfort, it's the best single upgrade to the car.

**MauiMike** · September 29th 2022, 19:28

What macfly said - I put the Alpina suspension on and it is worth the time and trouble.

**LarryG** · September 29th 2022, 20:20

Didn’t I read that the Alpina suspension pieces are no longer available

**JackRabbit** · September 29th 2022, 23:48

KSK Distributing, the only US authorized Alpina dealer won't sell them however, connected dealers have ways around that.
Speak with Mike Kent at Enthusiast Auto Group in Ohio or see the 'I have returned to BMW' thread in Z8 Chat Room for Dana Caldwell's contact info.
It is expensive but worth it if that is what you want.

**GaZ8fan** · September 30th 2022, 13:01

The Alpina set up is certainly an improvement over stock but it’s still 20 yr old technology hence my decision to go the MCS route. Of course if you rarely plan to drive your car like many Z8 owners than the juice is probably not worth the squeeze.

**TheJQ** · January 3rd 2023, 13:11

Well, it only took me 11 months to find two fronts and two rears and then another couple of weeks to get them changed to gunmetal & chrome... but they're finally done. Thanks to whomever had this brilliant idea. Even my wife who care little about cars and less about wheels was blown away when I swapped out the OEM wheels for these.

Next up, suspension, manifold and exhaust.

**macfly** · January 3rd 2023, 18:11

Stunning combo, simply perfect - and you'll be so thrilled once you swap over to the Alpina suspension set up.

**2112** · January 6th 2023, 07:41

Boy, whoever did your wheels did an incredible job.

Is the barrel clearcoated? Are the centers painted or powdercoated?

**TheJQ** · January 6th 2023, 12:16

Yeah, he does great work. The entire wheel is powdered and the center is an automotive paint topcoat with powder.

**2112** · January 15th 2023, 05:49

So a clear powder topcoat? Over automotive paint?

Interesting. I never knew that was possible knowing how they cook powder.

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