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    Thumbs up Valentine One

    This little bit of kit is an absolute license saver, I avoided 6 potential traps in one 1500 mile tour. I'd read all the reviews both in print, and online, and this is consistently the top dog of all detection devices, so I made the purchase.

    edited april 07
    Now, some five years later I am still loving the V1. On my Z8 I now have it hard wired from the fusebox, the cable runs up the windscreen, inside the screen surround, and comes out in front just by the rear view mirror, allowing me to clip my V1 unit onto the drivers side sun visor. I really like this way of attaching it because it allows me transfer my V1 unit quickly between all my cars.

    updated jun 2010
    I've now done eight years with the V1 in my Z8, M3, GT3, both Lotus''s and even on my bike, and I have not got a single speeding ticket in all that time. I'd say it has saved me from jail a dozen times, and fines maybe several hundred times. It is absolutely worth its weight in gold.
    Please don't think I am some tearaway hooligan driving like a nutcase in urban areas, I only go fast on the open, deserted back roads of CA, NV and AZ, when there is no one around, and it is safe and clear to enjoy the ability of our cars.
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    Another approach

    I had my local dealer run a black phone extension wire from under the dash (basically from the radio) up the driver's side pillar and then came out behind the rear view mirror stalk. It's about 8" long. Perfect for me to put the V1 on the visor and plug it in. I never remove it, so I didn't worry about putting in a jack. The whole thing can be removed if necessary (no holes).

    On another note, I spoke to Mike Valentine about the problem with the parking lights setting off the V1 laser detector (try pulling into a garage that's painted white some time). There's nothing that he's going to be able to do about it. Your only choice is to go in to the programming for the V1 and turn off the laser detector (too risky in terms of tickets ). I've just gotten used to turning off my lights before I pull in.
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    Aesthetically, it bothers me to hook up something to my visor, or to have loose cables lying around. But I can do without the tickets. Aren't there any solutions that are less obvious and still effective for everyday driving?

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    I have seen a Passport unit put in the dash...

    it was installed just under the radio unit inside the flap, with the forward sensor was behind the radiator grill, I'm not sure if there was a rear sensor. From what I have read you want the sensor(s) to be as high up as possible, at thats where it gives/gets the best readings. Also the V1 unit keeps coming out top in all the comparison tests, so it is a good way to go.

    When I have the top down I keep it in the glove compartment, unless I'm out for a real drive in the hills, as it can attract the wrong kind of attention if the cops see it, but with the top up, or the hard top on you don't even notice it, except when it's saving you points and fines!
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    macfly, your memory from this installation may be rusty, but what is the power source? Does the mike actually draw 12V continuously or did he simply use the mike wire harness and tap into another power source near the other end of the cable? Also, do you know the pin configuration of the jack?

    Sorry for so many questions. Just trying to replicate your installation - looks great and functional for a convertible (quick in/out).

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    My memory defines rusty!!

    Which is in part why I started this site, as a way to remember all this stuff later!! By reading the previous posts I can now say for sure it was wired into the microphone, which is always live. I loved the quick and easy in/out of that set up, but for my current car, which I view as a long term keeper, I don't want to cut into any of the plastic parts like I did before, as little things like that may be impossible to replace in the fullness of time.

    I'm also not sure that the V1 will be the with me as long as the car, with more and more lasers and instant on radars it's days as the savior of choice may well be numbered.
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    Great. I was all gung-ho about the mic install. Now the "godfather" of Z8 enthusiast is endorsing another method. What to do?

    Kidding aside, I like the ease of installation by robbing the mic power, but I understand the argument behind maintaining all original parts. I think I'll work on a hybrid - scavenge power from the cell mic without modifying the plastic front plate.

    I'll report my progress.

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    I might suggest to do the mic mods if your main concern is modification of the plastic cover and order a replacement part (spare) now to keep on the shelf. That way, if you want to bring it back into compliance at some later date, you'll have the spare.

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    FYI - Laser is in AZ now. Not sure if it's in your area, but I've seen it in use in Mesa several times over the past 2 months - mostly on the 202 so far. You know how that works - its use will probably spread to other parts of the valley very soon. Turn your back on if you can. I'm not sure it matters though because by the time you get the alert, you're probably caught. Just remember though, they can't ticket you with laser if you're more than 1000 m from the culprit squirting the laser due to beam divergence. Good Luck - we'll all need it!

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    Valentine One

    Does anyone know if Valentine is resolving the issue of our detectors going off on Neon lights that are becoming so prevalent in todays cars?

    They have a trade in program but I am not sure there will be any improvement.

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    I am still using an old one...

    and have noticed that in town the alerts have become much more common, but out on the open road they seem to work ok as usual. Are you running it in 'logoc' mode, I find that helps a lot?

    If you do send yours in on the exchange please do let me know, as that sounds like a great idea, I may well follow suit.
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    Neon lights set off laser detectors. Our own lights reflect of signs and set it off.

    Also the some of the automatic distance cruise controls sets it off too.

    Last I heard, no fixes for these.

    I disabled laser during MITM due to it going off constantly.

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    I have tried several settings, Either they are going off or I am not picking up the revenue collectors.

    In our small town, They had a choice;

    A) Equip each car with a defibralator to aid cardiac patients.
    B) Replace all the K band radar guns with laser guns.

    Sad to say, they chose option B. Revenue is revenue.

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    Did you have any success?

    Quote Originally Posted by thegunguy View Post
    I think I'll work on a hybrid - scavenge power from the cell mic without modifying the plastic front plate.

    I'll report my progress.
    I'm about to install my Valentine using the Macfly method, and was wondering if you had discovered any other way. I'd like to order a backup original mic cover before cutting anything, but like the short cord/easy in-out that this install offers.

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    I decided not to modify the mic cover. So, I just wired it to the fuse box in the glove compartment. Had to ground under the door sill cover - silly aluminum car!

    Ken, PM me and I'll give you my phone number if you want to discuss.
    thegunguy
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    Any sugestions, Verizon cancelled the Z8 phone service since it was old .......

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    Sprint PCS Phone with in car mike

    Just wanted everyone to know, I ordered and got a Motorola Timeport 8767 with my car, new in October 2002. I selected Sprint PCS for my service and the microphone for the hands-free mode has always worked fine with this phone. I don't know how it is with newer phones using Sprint PCS. Perhaps a reconditioned phone is still available. I also understand that the newer phones don't have the same range capabilities as this older model.

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    Part number??

    I've decided to mount my Valentine just like Macfly's first entry in this thread, but want to order a replacement mic cover before any cutting takes place. I've gone over the parts lists on the OEM site and at the dealer, and we cannot find the part listed (only the plastic underlying box that receives the cover, and that is $12.00) Has anyone ordered one yet? Does anyone know how this one comes off? Thanks.

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    Ken, FYI I'm just having one put into my new Z8 by Peter Pan, and what we are doing now is taking a dedicated line up from the fusebox inside the screen surround, and exiting just by the mounting point, so we don't have to cut this part, and it has it's own dedicated fuse in the fusebox.
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    Same as how I wired mine...
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    I was trying to avoid having the leather pillars and top piece removed in fear that they would either be damaged in removal or not fit as tightly again. Do they just pull off? Have you had any of these problems, or are my fears unjustified?

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    After reading various reviews, I have been using the Beltronics radar detector. It seems to work great but I have never been sure if it picks up airplane radar. My concern is that I have never found out if these things are legal and if not, can you get a ticket for having one on your dash??? Please advise.

    Bob A.

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    It varies state by state, but in CA they are ok to the best of my knowledge.
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    Its finally in and working

    It took some time to finish due to other projects that took priority, but the Valentine is in and working. Here are some helpful hints for those who would like to try it:
    1) The lighting part that needs to be removed is # 63 31 6 909 386 (lighting module)
    2) The tool to remove it is part #90 88 6 009 340. It is a piece of plastic thicker than a credit card that slips under the module and pops the clips for removal
    3) Both are available at your dealer or at BMAPARTS.com at a discounted price ($65 for both incl shipping).
    4) The feed wires for the mic cannot handle the electrical draw of the Valentine. In my car, it read 12V when tapped, but dropped to 4V when the Valentine was turned on, and the Valentine did not light up. The wires going to the mic can be used if the other end can be found, avoiding the removal of the side pillars, or new wires can be brought up from the fusebox. I tapped the mic wire directly, then handed it over to BMW of Austin when I measured the voltage drops under load. They ran a dedicated line up to the custom cut module with the phone plug that I created.
    5) The direct wire module that comes with the Valentine is easy to open and modify to fit the Z8's light module. Remove the sticker, and it will reveal two screws that allow for the removal of the round plastic direct wire case.
    I now have Valentine protection, the original module untouched, and a really clean installation that cannot be detected when unplugged. Many thanks to everyone who has supplied info and photos!!

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    Ken,

    Great work on this one. I can't wait to see it in a few weeks.
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    Ken,

    You should post some pics of your installation. It looked great last weekend.
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    I recently had my V1 unit updated by V1, it is a firmware/software update you have to mail the unit to them for. It doesn't change the constant alerts of running with other Z8's, or the in town X band pick ups, but it does seem to pick up the CHP Ka band even better I'm happy to say.
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    You check to see if your unit is current or needs and upgrade below.

    http://www.valentine1.com/upgrades/
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    Been awhile since any action on this thread...everyone still on board with the V1? I'm still using it for all of my vehicles, but a friend has an Escort Redline with the Escort Live module used in conjunction with his iphone in his C4S, after spending some time in it, especially on the interstate, I can say it's pretty slick!

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    I confess to still being on the V1 simply because it's wired into my Z8 so I just haven't been exposed to any other detectors.
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    Just hardwired mine to the new (to me) 911 4S after I removed it from the Boxster I sold. So yes - V1 still rules for me.
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