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    BMW at Gooding, Amelia Island

    Here are the results for a significant BMW collection at today's Gooding auction in Amelia Island. Never mind the wet ink. The pen was free, the air was moist and I was chilly all day here.
       
    ZAchterbahn
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    Wow, I can't believe I didn't buy that 507 for 600k, I'd have made a million by today!
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    the 503 coupe isn't bad either !
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    Ah, the ones that got away........ like the $32k Gullwing I didn't buy at the Atlantic City auction back in 1980 or the $7k Cobra for sale in my apartment building in LA back in 1976!

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    I could have bought a black running 503 coupe for 5000 18 years ago advertised in a local paper. I was restoring my BMW 600 at the time and didn't have the room to store a second project.
    2002 Silver Black/Red

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    Dinan caster plates
    Dinan duel mass flywheel
    custom Sachs clutch /pressure plate
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    Thank you for sharing. I like this way of reporting > just some text on the screen.

    The big surprises to me are the M6- wow that was strong! And the 1600 GT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z8Mania View Post
    Thank you for sharing. I like this way of reporting > just some text on the screen.

    The big surprises to me are the M6- wow that was strong! And the 1600 GT.
    The M6 was a very very low milage example. If my memory serves me correctly it only had about 9K miles. But still that's pretty strong.
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    Thats really amazing. I always loved those M6 and 635 CSi models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z8Mania View Post
    Thats really amazing. I always loved those M6 and 635 CSi models.
    They're really starting to look classic, and are coming out of their awkward phase

    EDIT: A 507 just sold at RM auctions for $2.2 Million
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    Smile Yes Sir !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Z8Mania View Post
    .The big surprises to me are the M6- wow that was strong! .
    Me TOO !!!
     
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    Jeff
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    Two dream cars for sure. I really love that M6.

    I used to know this but its escaping me for some reason- what are the differences between the M6 and 635 CSi?

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    Also why would that M6 have an awkward phase? I don't understand. Do you mean for you or the market?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z8Mania View Post
    Also why would that M6 have an awkward phase? I don't understand. Do you mean for you or the market?
    What I meant is that in my opinion the car looked simply old and dated, but now it's coming out of that phase and looks classic.
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    M6 had a M Powered six cylinder engine putting out more horsepower than the 3.5 liter engine in the 635. My dad had a red 1988 M6 that he drove for twelve years. Performance is good but no speedster.
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    By the way, did anyone know who's collection it was? Many of the cars suggest it might have been Starr Young's collection, but I didn't see a confirmation anywhere.
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    Right. Makes sense on both counts. But Marty, does this gen M6 have the individual throttle butterflies? And wouldn't it get an uprated suspension too? Have you ever seen the video with Nelson Piquet driving the M6 around the track? I forget where I saw it but it was awesome.

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    This must be the vid you mean?

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    I'm pretty sure most everything in the running gear and suspension was beefed up over a 635. I had a grey market 1985 M6 that I imported new and had federalized. It had much better performance than my dad's US model. Plus, the individual wipers on each headlight were pretty cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hayvenhurstkid View Post
    M6 had a M Powered six cylinder engine putting out more horsepower than the 3.5 liter engine in the 635. My dad had a red 1988 M6 that he drove for twelve years. Performance is good but no speedster.
    The 1987 and 1988 M6 was the US Spec version of the M635CSi and the engine was the same S38 motor but tuned differently for the US vs European markets.. The US version had 256 hp / 243 torque and had 0-60 times of 6.8 seconds for the US market and the M635CSi had 286 hp / 251 torque with 0-60 of 6.1 seconds. The rear diff final drive was also different with a 4.11 for the US and I think 3.56 for Europe leading to some disappointment for US owners of only a top speed reported of 155 but some testing achieved as high as 171 mph with a stock US Spec M6. Despite these speeds, the M6 during that era was considered one of the 10 fasted cars in the world and the fastest production BMW on the market with the only the limited production M1. (Faster than the 1988 M5 Sedan which had the S38 and same HP but different gearing as it was a sedan and 0-60 of 6.5s-Euro spec and top speed of 143 mph. ) There were total 5859 cars total US and Euro spec sold between 1983 and 1989 with 5,859 total cars and 1,767 M6 imported to the North American market (and only 2 cars total imported in 1989).

    Mine... I am second owner and has Dinan Performance Chip and BMW accessory at the time of Sport Spring set and sway bars with greatly improved the ride and handling. Also, has staggered fitment 17" BMW Mesh wheels as the OEM TRX Metric wheels were very hard to get tires for in the US market so most owners have dropped the original TRX wheels in favor of something else. Otherwise, stock and original except for an iPod connection. I have an original sales brochure for the US Spec and it advertised a 0-60of 5.6 seconds but I have clocked mine personally and it is 0-60 in 5.9 seconds after 3 runs. For the era, a fast car and IMHO, faster than a lot of the cars even today.
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    Jeff
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    Andrew,
    now that the auction is over, I will ask around and see if I can find out who's collection it was. All the cars auctioned at Amelia were at Driver Source in Houston! where I store my restored 1976 2002. The 1600 GT was in great condition as well as most of the other cars. The 507 was an original one, never restored, but in good condition overall.
    Manuel
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    Manuel, the Driver Source Fellows from Houston were all smile Friday night. They did well at the auction but they also put a ton of money and effort into getting these cars fit for Gooding. I have bought two collectible cars from them over the last three years. They are very professional, meticulous and a pleasure to deal with. I am happy for them. Their vault is a great place to store a vehicle too.
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    Manuel, at least the RM Auction was .

    the Malcolm Pray collection. Per the RM Auction Preview :

    In total, the 2014 RM Amelia auction will see 16 motor cars from the collection of the late Malcolm S. Pray Jr. on offer. Representing both American and European marques, the sale will benefit The Pray Achievement Center, an organization that Mr. Pray founded to mentor and motivate young people to achieve their life goals.
    Additional highlights of the Pray Collection include:

    1958 BMW 507 Series II Roadster, chassis 70156, owned by Malcolm since 1972 and featuring a factory hardtop, a Becker Mexico radio and rare Rudge wheels (Est. $1,400,000 $1,800,000);

    This 507 apparently sold for nearly $2.4 Million per Dirk who was in attendance. Just amazing.
     
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    Yes, truly amazing!

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    He apparently bought that 507 in 1972 --- I would say for most likely no more than $15 - $20K back then as just before the Z8 was released, they were going for about $100k - $150K in 1999. Now in 2014, 14 years from 1999, going for over $2.4 million --- ridiculously amazing !!
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    Jeff
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    Thank you all for the knowledge. Great information here. Yes thats the video. I love it! No doubt these cars are pretty fast- even by today's standards.