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    Z8 Ate My Homework! Norcal's Avatar
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    New CA Traffic fines

    This is crazy high. A friend sent this to me.
     

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    We really have to keep to our back roads to let our hair down!
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    thanks for the info

    personally, i wouldn't mind if they make the fine for texting while driving(!!) a LOT higher

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    Does CA have surcharges like we have here in NY? You can get a $100 ticket but then theres a $500 surcharge!!!!!!!!! IMHO its unconstitutional for the government to simply charge a fee to do business with it. If the ticket should have been a $600 fine- let the legislature make it so. [end of soapbox]

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    I haven't heard about this, and it's a while since my last ticket, but as of then it was just the cost shown on the ticket.
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    I saw a report where the largest percentage of the tickets in Cali are from red light cameras. I guess since you can't see them until it's too late...

    I haven't had a speeding ticket in nearly 20 years, but got two red light camera tickets in less than one year. The formula is simple, shorten the yellow light from one second per 10 feet of street width to half second and voila! I finally ditched the old Valentine for a Passport 9500ix, which has the red light camera warning.
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    They actually had to scrap them all here in LA because so many people contested them and challenged the corruption that the LAPD withdrew them all from service. They're still sitting there, but they're no longer functional.
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    While true within LA city limits, my 9500ix is constantly going off because every other city has them by the boatload. You should drive through Burbank, Cerritos or Beverly Hills with the 9500ix and you'd be blown away by all the red light camera warnings.
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    I've got two cars in violation of vc 5200, with only the rear license plate. The price of an uncluttered front end.
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    I think "VC 26708 - Unlawful material on vehicle windows" applies to devices attached to the windows by suction cups such as GPS Nav units, radar detectors, etc.. At least it used to be, so watch out for that. I have my radar detector clipped to the visor for that reason when traveling through CA. I thought I'd heard CA legislature was going to ditch the suction cup issue, but it looks to me like it remains in effect under 26708. Someone should read the actual verbiage to see if suction cups are permitted or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jawz View Post
    I think "VC 26708 - Unlawful material on vehicle windows" applies to devices attached to the windows by suction cups such as GPS Nav units.
    If that is in fact the case, the People's Communist Republic of California is going to make a mint. Just about every other car I see on the road has an aftermarket GPS Navi unit. Interestingly, I hardly see any radar detectors.
    C.A. Cardenas (AKA Dan)
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    1989 DINAN 750iL - 73K mi. - Original Owner
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    Looks like they addressed it. You're right Carlos. Here's the statute. Note #12 applies to GPS, etc...

    "V C Section 26708 Material Obstructing or Reducing Driver x2019 s View

    Material Obstructing or Reducing Driver?s View

    26708. (a) (1) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied upon the windshield or side or rear windows.

    (2) A person shall not drive any motor vehicle with any object or material placed, displayed, installed, affixed, or applied in or upon the vehicle that obstructs or reduces the driver?s clear view through the windshield or side windows.

    (3) This subdivision applies to a person driving a motor vehicle with the driver?s clear vision through the windshield, or side or rear windows, obstructed by snow or ice.

    (b) This section does not apply to any of the following:

    (1) Rearview mirrors.

    (2) Adjustable nontransparent sunvisors that are mounted forward of the side windows and are not attached to the glass.

    (3) Signs, stickers, or other materials that are displayed in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver, signs, stickers, or other materials that are displayed in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the rear window farthest removed from the driver, or signs, stickers, or other materials that are displayed in a five-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest the driver.

    (4) Side windows that are to the rear of the driver.

    (5) Direction, destination, or terminus signs upon a passenger common carrier motor vehicle or a schoolbus, if those signs do not interfere with the driver?s clear view of approaching traffic.

    (6) Rear window wiper motor.

    (7) Rear trunk lid handle or hinges.

    (8) The rear window or windows, if the motor vehicle is equipped with outside mirrors on both the left- and righthand sides of the vehicle that are so located as to reflect to the driver a view of the highway through each mirror for a distance of at least 200 feet to the rear of the vehicle.

    (9) A clear, transparent lens affixed to the side window opposite the driver on a vehicle greater than 80 inches in width and that occupies an area not exceeding 50 square inches of the lowest corner toward the rear of that window and that provides the driver with a wide-angle view through the lens.

    (10) Sun screening devices meeting the requirements of Section 26708.2 installed on the side windows on either side of the vehicle?s front seat, if the driver or a passenger in the front seat has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed physician and surgeon certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a medical condition, or has in his or her possession a letter or other document signed by a licensed optometrist certifying that the person must be shaded from the sun due to a visual condition. The devices authorized by this paragraph shall not be used during darkness.

    (11) An electronic communication device affixed to the center uppermost portion of the interior of a windshield within an area that is not greater than five inches square, if the device provides either of the following:

    (A) The capability for enforcement facilities of the Department of the California Highway Patrol to communicate with a vehicle equipped with the device.

    (B) The capability for electronic toll and traffic management on public or private roads or facilities.

    (12) A portable Global Positioning System (GPS), which may be mounted in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver or in a five-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag deployment zone, if the system is used only for door-to-door navigation while the motor vehicle is being operated.

    (13) (A) A video event recorder with the capability of monitoring driver performance to improve driver safety, which may be mounted in a seven-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield farthest removed from the driver, in a five-inch square in the lower corner of the windshield nearest to the driver and outside of an airbag deployment zone, or in a five-inch square mounted to the center uppermost portion of the interior of the windshield. As used in this section, ?video event recorder? means a video recorder that continuously records in a digital loop, recording audio, video, and G-force levels, but saves video only when triggered by an unusual motion or crash or when operated by the driver to monitor driver performance.

    (B) A vehicle equipped with a video event recorder shall have a notice posted in a visible location which states that a passenger?s conversation may be recorded.

    (C) Video event recorders shall store no more than 30 seconds before and after a triggering event.

    (D) The registered owner or lessee of the vehicle may disable the device.

    (E) The data recorded to the device is the property of the registered owner or lessee of the vehicle.

    (F) When a person is driving for hire as an employee in a vehicle with a video event recorder, the person?s employer shall provide unedited copies of the recordings upon the request of the employee or the employee?s representative. These copies shall be provided free of charge to the employee and within five days of the request.

    (c) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the topmost portion of the windshield if the following conditions apply:

    (1) The bottom edge of the material is at least 29 inches above the undepressed driver?s seat when measured from a point five inches in front of the bottom of the backrest with the driver?s seat in its rearmost and lowermost position with the vehicle on a level surface.

    (2) The material is not red or amber in color.

    (3) There is no opaque lettering on the material and any other lettering does not affect primary colors or distort vision through the windshield.

    (4) The material does not reflect sunlight or headlight glare into the eyes of occupants of oncoming or following vehicles to any greater extent than the windshield without the material.

    (d) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), clear, colorless, and transparent material may be installed, affixed, or applied to the front side windows, located to the immediate left and right of the front seat if the following conditions are met:

    (1) The material has a minimum visible light transmittance of 88 percent.

    (2) The window glazing with the material applied meets all requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 205 (49 C.F.R. 571.205), including the specified minimum light transmittance of 70 percent and the abrasion resistance of AS-14 glazing, as specified in that federal standard.

    (3) The material is designed and manufactured to enhance the ability of the existing window glass to block the sun?s harmful ultraviolet A rays.

    (4) The driver has in his or her possession, or within the vehicle, a certificate signed by the installing company certifying that the windows with the material installed meet the requirements of this subdivision and the certificate identifies the installing company and the material?s manufacturer by full name and street address, or, if the material was installed by the vehicle owner, a certificate signed by the material?s manufacturer certifying that the windows with the material installed according to manufacturer?s instructions meet the requirements of this subdivision and the certificate identifies the material?s manufacturer by full name and street address.

    (5) If the material described in this subdivision tears or bubbles, or is otherwise worn to prohibit clear vision, it shall be removed or replaced.

    Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 413, Stats. 2008. Effective January 1, 2009.
    Amended Sec. 181, Ch. 140, Stats. 2009. Effective January 1, 2010.
    Amended Sec. 1, Ch. 458, Stats. 2010. Effective January 1, 2011."

    I guess you're in control of a 7" square on the lower corner of passenger side or the 5" square on driver's side of your own vehicle [email protected]#$#%&+.

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    Bureaucrats!
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    I guess (b) (8) is the gun rack exception.
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    Yikes !!

    Seems ludicrous that a non-moving violation with a parked car that happens to be parked in a handicap zone is $976 1st offense where the worst that could happen is that a handicapped person might have to circle the block a couple times only to eventually find a different spot but a serioius texting and driving which can obviously cause much more serious and life threatening harm from distracted driving is only an offense of $148???

    Probably because the $$ yield / profit for the state on actual tickets for parking violations is much greater sure thing than catching someone texting and driving so the price is high on the "sure thing" rather than in accordance with the actual danger of the violation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EDEZ8 View Post
    I've got two cars in violation of vc 5200, with only the rear license plate. The price of an uncluttered front end.
    Hopefully that big fine is for NO plates - and not the $25 for "missing front plate" that I get from time to time


    btw, here is how Steve Jobs got away with never having any plates on his AMG Mercedes:

    Steve Jobs - No Plates