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    Z8 Addict Scott Pettit's Avatar
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    OT: A Good Read

    Please note that I am not the author. I have cut and pasted this 'cuz I agree with most of it.

    "This is one of the greatest responses to the requests for bailout money I have seen thus far. As a supplier for the Big 3 this man received a letter from the President of GM North America requesting support for the bail out program. His response is classic, and has to make you proud of a local guy who tells it like it is.
    Dear Employees & Suppliers,
    Congress and the current Administration will soon determine whether to provide immediate support to the domestic auto industry to help it through one of the most difficult economic times in our nation's history. Your elected officials must hear from all of us now on why this support is critical to our continuing the progress we began prior to the global financial crisis. As an employee or supplier, you have a lot at stake and continue to be one of our most effective and passionate voices. I know GM can count on you to have your voice heard. Thank you for your urgent action and ongoing support.

    Troy Clarke President General Motors North America

    Response from:
    Gregory Knox, Pres.
    Knox Machinery Company
    Franklin, Ohio

    In response to your request to contact legislators and ask for a bailout for the Big Three automakers please consider the following, and please pass my thoughts on to Troy Clark, President of General Motors North America.

    Politicians and Management of the Big 3 are both infected with the same entitlement mentality that has spread like cancerous germs in UAW halls for the last countless decades, and whose plague is now sweeping this nation, awaiting our new "messiah", President-elect Obama, to wave his magic wand and make all our problems go away, while at the same time allowing our once great nation to keep "living the dream"... Believe me folks, The dream is over!

    This dream where we can ignore the consumer for years while management myopically focuses on its personal rewards packages at the ! same time that our factories have been filled with the worlds most overpaid, arrogant, ignorant and laziest entitlement minded "laborers" without paying the price for these atrocities...this dream where you still think the masses will line up to buy our products for ever and ever.

    Don't even think about telling me I'm wrong. Don't accuse me of not knowing of what I speak. I have called on Ford, GM, Chrysler, TRW, Delphi, Kelsey Hayes, American Axle and countless other automotive OEM's throughout the Midwest during the past 30 years and what I've seen over those years in these union shops can only be described as disgusting.

    Troy Clarke, President of General Motors North America, states: "There is widespread sentiment throughout this country, and our government, and especially via the news media, that the current crisis is completely the result of bad management which it certainly is not."

    You're right Mr. Clarke, it's not JUST about the electricians who walk around the plants like lords in feudal times, making people wait on them for countless hours while they drag they can come in on the weekend and make double and triple time...for a job they easily could have done within their normal 40 hour work week. How about the line workers who threaten newbies with all kinds of scare tactics...for putting out too many parts on a shift...and for being too productive
    (We certainly must not expose those lazy bums who have been getting overpaid for decades for their horrific underproduction, must we?!?)

    Do you folks really not know about this stuff? How about this great sentiment abridged from Mr. Clarke's sad plea: "over the last few years ...we have closed the quality and efficiency gaps with our competitors." What the hell has Detroit been doing for the last 40 years?? Did we really JUST wake up to the gaps in quality and efficiency between us and them? The K car vs. the Accord? The Pinto vs. the Civic?!? ! ;Do I need to go on? What a joke!

    We are living through the inevitable outcome of the actions of the United States auto industry for decades. It's time to pay for your sins, Detroit .

    I attended an economic summit last week where brilliant economist, Alan Beaulieu, from the Institute of Trend Research , surprised the crowd when he said he would not have given the banks a penny of "bailout money". "Yes, he said, this would cause short term problems," but despite what people like politicians and corporate magnates would have us believe, the sun would in fact rise the next day... and the following very important thing would happen...where there had been greedy and sloppy banks, new efficient ones would pop up...that is how a free market system does work...if we would only let it work..."

    But for some nondescript reason we are now deciding that the rest of the world is right and that capitalism doesn't work - that we need the government to step in and "save us"...Save us my ass, Hell - we're nationalizing...and unfortunately too many of our once fine nation's citizens don't even have a clue that this is what is really happening...But, they sure can tell you the stats on their favorite sports teams...yeah - THAT'S really important, isn't it...

    Does it ever occur to ANYONE that the "competition" has been producing vehicles, EXTREMELY PROFITABLY, for decades in this country?... How can that be??? Let's see... Fuel efficient... Listening to customers... Investing in the proper tooling and automation for the long haul...

    Not being too complacent or arrogant to listen to Dr. W. Edwards Deming four decades ago when he taught that by adopting appropriate principles of management, organizations could increase quality and simultaneously reduce costs.. Ever increased productivity through quality and intelligent planning... Treating vendors like strategic partners, rather than like "the enemy"8 0 Efficient front and back offices... Non union environment.! ..
    Again, I could go on and on, but I really wouldn't be telling anyone anything they really don't already know down deep in their hearts.

    I have six children, so I am not unfamiliar with the concept of wanting someone to bail you out of a mess that you have gotten yourself into - my children do this on a weekly, if not daily basis, as I did when I was their age. I do for them what my parents did for me (one of their greatest gifts, by the way) - I make them stand on their own two feet and accept the consequences of their actions and work through it. Radical concept, huh... Am I there for them in the wings? Of course - but only until such time as they need to be fully on their own as adults.

    I don't want to oversimplify a complex situation, but there certainly are unmistakable parallels here between the proper role of parenting and government. Detroit and the United States need to pay for their sins.. Bad news people - it's coming whether we like it or not. The newly elected Messiah really doesn't have a magic wand big enough to "make it all go away." I laughed as I heard Obama "reeling it back in" almost immediately after the final vote count was tallied..."we really might not do it in a year...or in four..." Where the Hell was that kind of talk when he was RUNNING for office.

    Stop trying to put off the inevitable folks ... That house in Florida really isn't worth $750,000... People who jump across a border really don't deserve free health care benefits... That job driving that forklift for the Big 3 really isn't worth $85,000 a year... We really shouldn't allow Wal-Mart to stock their shelves with products acquired from a country that unfairly manipulates their currency and has the most atrocious human rights infractions on the face of the globe...

    That couple whose combined income is less than $50,000 really shouldn't be living in that $485,000 home... Let the market correct itself folks - it will. Yes it will be painful, but it's gonna' be painful either way, and the bright side of my proposal is that on the other side of it all, is a nation that appreciates what it has...and doesn't live beyond its means...and gets back to basics...and redevelops the patriotic work ethic that made it the greatest nation in the history of the world...and probably turns back to God.

    Sorry - don't cut my head off, I'm just the messenger sharing with you the "bad news". I hope you take it to heart".

    Gregory J. Knox, President
    Knox Machinery, Inc.

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    Found the link on the web to the article you mentioned. Appears at least a few people are going to nominate him as a Presidential candidate in the next election, that is if some of the responders do not get to him first. I applaud his actions.

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    It is a good letter, and illustrates the how unions can strangle industry. The unions came into existence because of the serf like use of labor by early industrialists. The railroads and the mines treated men like dirt and paid them a pittance for a job that often took life or limb. The unions were born of an honest need for fair treatment by oppressive employers, but now they have become the oppressors, and the enemy of business. It is a classic case of the abused becoming the abuser.

    I'm old enough to have lived through a round of nationalization in the UK, the land of my birth. I saw our car once vibrant and diverse car industry get swept up into British Leyland, where the unions caused so many problems that they killed off an already ailing giant. Nationalization is very hard to make work, it isn't a natural business model, it isn't hungry, it isn't a vital or vibrant and it doesn't allow room for quick thinking or quick changes of direction. All the industries I saw nationalized have all failed, National Coal Board, broken up and sold of piecemeal to foreign investors, British Steel same thing, British Rail and British Airways resold to the private sector with massive incentives after loosing billions, and the National Heath Service ensures that British medicine remains very close to British dentistry.

    However American has a habit of ignoring history. France couldn't pacify Vietnam for a 100 years, England and Russia both left Afghanistan with their tails between their legs after a hundred years and ten respectively, and England never did solve the riddles of Iraq or Palestine though they tried for over a century. History is full of great lessons, I only hope those in power are not too arrogant to learn from it.
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    Perhaps history is not being ignored

    Quote Originally Posted by macfly View Post
    All the industries I saw nationalized have all failed, National Coal Board, broken up and sold of piecemeal to foreign investors, British Steel same thing, British Rail and British Airways resold to the private sector with massive incentives after loosing billions
    I don't want to start a conspiracy theory, but what if there are some powerful Americans (or their wealthy international bedfellows) who are quite familiar with the history of failure of these nationalized industries, and are setting the stage to let them fail. They can then position themselves for the next bailout, and become heroes for taking these failed industries private once again with great personal financial gain. I can hear the next presidential candidate promising to "find someone to take these burdens off of the government's back".

    When things get tough enough, maybe Americans will finally grow up and concentrate on strengthening their job environments, businesses, industries, and country instead of worrying if team A beats team B.

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    I am not into conspiracies, (although on a recent trip to London from the airport the taxi driver did open my eyes up to all sorts of conspiracies, actually got the same guy on the way back to the airport and by the time he dropped me off he figured out that I was egging him on), leaving capitalism to work its magic of creative destruction the sun will come up tomorrow. Look at the Airlines to see how fast the cost of established lines can no longer compete with upstarts who do not have crippling retirement benefits to pay. There is no doubt that Detroit can build quality cars when they put their mind to it, they just cannot do it at competitive cost due to crippling retirement benefits. As I have heard said the Big 3 are pension funds with car businesses on the side. History tells us how this story will end, the union will have to give on the benefit cost to save jobs or the companies are history once the government cuts them off of life support. That fact is not being cruel it is just how capitalism works and like it or not there is no better alternative to capitalism.

    What the U.S. really needs is Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher like leadership.

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    I'm not convinced by either of those as leaders, Reganomics is where the seeds of this madness was sown, and Maggie went off her rocker after a promising start - the 'poll tax', need I say more!

    To be honest I wish that the families that are our Emperors would simply come out from behind the curtain, and put their plans forward. If they did the Rothchilds, Rockerfellers, Schiffs and Warburgs might be pleasantly surprised by the support that they would find. Staying hidden behind the vanishing curtain of invisibility just makes them all look like the bad guys. (Illuminati, masons, moneychangers or whatever it is that the conspiracy lovers would call them). Someone always has to be at the top, and I have no problem with it being dynasties who've earnt it, what I find questionable is their secrecy.

    At this point we all know those families own the NY Fed, and thus control the entire Federal Reserve System. They also bank for the Windsors and all the other richest families in the world, a pretty good vote of confidence! Beyond that the Rockerfellers are the main money behind the UN, the Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations and the Bilderberg Club. The Rothchilds have been the principal backers of the state of Israel since the deal was done to take Palestine as part of the repayment of funds the Rothchilds lent to England to cover WW2 in 1947. All the information on all these families is out there, I've posted many links to it here. I say stand up and be counted as what you are, the most successful, dynamic businesses and families on earth. Thats the kind of united leadership we need now, not the ridiculous puppet show that is the politics of the moment, we all know they dance to the Fed's tune, and now we all know who the pipers are, so lets just cut to the chase.
    Andrew Macpherson

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