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    Built To Last

    The powertrain of our cars is really designed to take a beating and keep on ticking. Some of these E39 guys (http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/sho...d.php?t=118621) have 230K miles on the clock. Too bad most Z8s will remain locked up in our garages.
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    Not all, some will be driven, and driven, and driven!!
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    You have the best of both worlds
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    Who has the highest mileage here at our forum ?? Z8 Ros ?

    p.s. From what I understand from my dealer, the 'normal' BMW V8 engines (like the M62) can do 700-800 thousand kilometers before getting a complete engine job.... I don't know if 'our' S62 can beat that (.....)

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    Good idea
    who has less than 5000 between 5000 and 10000 etc
    this would be a nice poll Andrew
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    We have 36,000 smiles on our Alpina!

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    Just over 33,000 for us.

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    14.000 kilometers (about 9000 miles) over here.

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    I have just under 72,000 miles

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    mileage

    just over 3000 miles for me
    Luigi
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    16,600 for me

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    77715 - 18,500 miles, including around 2500 at the track, sold with no mechanical problems.
    60789 - 52,000 miles, including 1000 at the track - ran as sweet as a nut, sold with no mechanical issues.
    61888 - 9,500 miles, no problems except fogging headlights, replaced gratis.
    62067 - 2,050 miles, no problems except fogging headlights, replaced gratis.
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    61874 18000 spirited miles with new tires every 4K!

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    17000 miles, fogging lights (replaced), new battery, new wheels/tires, and PP.
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    during my 9000 miles only part replaced is third braking light. Anyone else ?

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    12,500. At the dealer awaiting replacement of plastic auxillary fan. (Lookin' @ just under $1,000 for the plastic. I am encouraged that this apparently has not been experienced by others.)

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    Ok... so what is everyone's current milage?

    Quote Originally Posted by redz8 View Post
    .....Too bad most Z8s will remain locked up in our garages.
    My current milage is 45,823 for a 2003/build date 9/2002 -- all miles of smiles to boot.
    Best Regards,

    Jeff
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    Current mileage is a hair under 25,000.

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    28,000 since spring 01
    ? CD player replaced
    ? Glove box latch replaced
    ? PP installed
    ? Trunk struts replaced
    ? Battery replaced (once)
    ? Fan switch replaced
    ? Rear window seal (twice)

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    My current mileage is about 31,700 put on the car since November 2002. Had the hand brake assembly replaced (gratis-wouldn't stay engaged), one fogged headlight replaced (gratis), new tires (not RF), passenger seat back re-attached to mounting clips (gratis), multiple rear window repairs (fabric not staying under the rubber seal on the top edge (gratis), and the CD changer at least twice has not recognized the cartridge for several days, then started working again--can't think of any other "repairs" other than regular oil changes.
    John Klecker - 2002 Topaz / Crema (61782)

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    I have the OEM Run Flats.

    I have had folks tell me that changing to a non RF makes the ride a bit smoother. The ride is not bad, but when the tires wear out, I may go with something else

    What is everyones opinion and suggestions?

    Scott

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    Did you read the Frame Forum yet? If not read this very carefully - http://bmwz8.us/vbb/showpost.php?p=7061&postcount=1
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    I have driven "only" 130.000 km (81000 miles). So a lot of miles to go.
    Z8Ros

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z8Ros View Post

    I have driven "only" 130.000 km (81000 miles). So a lot of miles to go.
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    Z8Ros, number 1 position for you until now, right ?

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    I am having the PP installed in July. BMW is having a regional wrench oversee / do the install along with changing the head lights (fogging), re-glueing the top above the rear window, fixing a concern that I have with the passenger seat and fixing the lock on the glove box. No charge for any of this except the PP.

    My ride will be in the shop for 3 days.

    Now, back to my original question: should I keep the run flats or change to non RF's?

    Scott

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    Scott, a lot of Z8 owners are switching to non RFT tires (most of them choose the Michelin Pilot Sport 2). I am still driving the OEM Bridgestones RFT's, but also thinking of changing. I have found out that with low temperatures the Bridgestone's traction is awful, but I presume that the Michelin with low temperatures is too. Several advantages and disadvantages. Major advantage of the Bridgestones is the event of a pressure loss/flat tire.. Disadvantage; weight and stiffness...Toghether with the fact that tires dry out during the years, if we switch I think that non RFT's Michelin PS2's are first choice.

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    Scott and RRZ8,

    I have 45K miles and had the OEM Bridgestone RE040 RFTs for nearly 23k miles and found them hard as a rock. I installed the Dinan Stage 3 suspension upgrade at around that time and switched to Bridgestone S03s non-RFTs with the stock OEM wheels and found a much, much more compliant ride despite the improve handling and firmer feel of the stiffer springs of the Dinan Set up.

    At 42K miles, I upgraded to the Brembo Big Brake kit with 20" Beyern Type 5 wheels (which are lighter than the OEM 18" wheels) and now have the Michelin PS2s. They match the Dinan Suspension perfectly and still have a very compliant ride and outstanding handling (suspension, smaller sidewalls and lighter overall weight by a couple pounds a corner) -- and trust me, the roads and city streets here in Oklahoma are terrible at best so the upgrades are worth it.

    In retrospect which is the biggest improvement for the buck...... hands down winner -- dump the Run Flats, you will not regret it. Just get a BMW Mobility kit for the trunk, just in case.
    Best Regards,

    Jeff
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    Scott, I can only guess you re-ask your question because you didn't take the time to read the link.

    6. Beyond fitting the PP what can I do to minimize the chance of suffering this damage?
    BMW NA's official position is that there is a NOT a problem, and thus they will NOT suggest any preventative measures, including the use of the PP. However, the Z8 Club in Europe has suggested that the OE run-flat tires are the key contributer to the damage as they are very heavy and have extremely stiff sidewalls. All the preproduction testing of the Z8 was done using Michelin Pilot Sport tires, the Bridgestone Run Flats were an eleventh hour addition to the car demanded by BMW's Marketing Department, which is almost certainly why the issue didn't surface during the rigorous preproduction testing. Using regular tires both lessens the unsprung weight and the more compliant sidewalls absorb much more of the force that might be transferred to the strut towers in an sudden pothole impact.
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    Apparently I didn't read far enough.

    Thanks,

    Scott