Seat back clip repair.

[macfly]

These shots were sent in by braindilley, and clearly illustrate the seat back clips that have failed on several cars. They are a very tight fit, and take quite some work to slot back in place once they are glued. The glue info come from our team chemical engineer, FWK-Z8

1.) Clean both surfaces with a fine 80-100 grit sandpaper to remove any residual adhesive/roughen up the mating surfaces.

2.) Spread a thin coat of cyanoacrylate (like MXBON 105, or any other good industrial superglue) to each surface - make sure you get it to the edges of the parts so as to eliminate stress concentrations that would allow peel.

3.) After getting the initial adhesion, run a bead around the perimeter of the clips to allow the adhesive to get in by capillary force . If possible clamp the two pieces together for about 2 hours.

4.) Wait overnight before reinstalling the shells.

5.) The top hooks, which are the ones that fail, slide up to engage. The bottom ones push in when the top hooks are fully engaged. The hardest part of the fix is re-installing the seat back. Due to the thickness of the leather, it's difficult to get the top hooks to "click" in place. Go slow, be patient, and you'll eventually get it.

[BigGar]

So you recommend the "superglue" as opposed to a glue especially for that type of plastic? Is there a special glue that will "bite" into those plastics? Looks like BMW used something like hot glue from a glue gun.



Gar

[boomster]

Gar, I just did my passenger seatback this past weekend. I used "Gorilla Glue", and it worked fine, just as it did when I repaired the driver's seat last fall. Two suggestions-remove all the residual factory glue, then take some sandpaper and rough up the the mating surface on the clip as well as the seatback. This will provide better adhesion. Also, carefully pry off any of the six clips that have not fallen off, and gorilla glue them as well. If you don't I can almost guarantee they will fall off during the wrestling match you will go through when you reinstall the seatback. Have fun!

Bill

[Z-acht]

For this kind of job I would never use cyanoacrylate: under stress it breaks. Epoxy glue is the best.

[BigGar]

Just did it with some epoxy that I've used for all manner of stuff. Seems to be perfect.


Thanks.


Gar

[Musta10000]

My seatbacks have been lose for a while and I finally pulled the passenger one off in order to hopefully repair it according to the instructions above. However, I can not locate the upper clip that goes on the left side (looking from behind) of the seatback. It is not underneath the seat, inside the seat back, or in the "I wonder what this is" bin. Anybody have one or any ideas? Am I SOL?

[boomster]

I gotta believe it has dropped into the seatback somewhere........

[Musta10000]

My seatbacks have been lose for a while and I finally pulled the passenger one off in order to hopefully repair it according to the instructions above. However, I can not locate the upper clip that goes on the left side (looking from behind) of the seatback. It is not underneath the seat, inside the seat back, or in the "I wonder what this is" bin. Anybody have one or any ideas? Am I SOL?

Could this part be 3D printed? The other seat does have the matching piece.

[macfly]

I would think you can get it as part from BMW if all else fails.

[Z-acht]

This could be the part number; 52107027224 but I think theses are the lower clips. If the upper and lower are the same than they are available

[Musta10000]

That would be great - did not realize that... I thought I would have to replace the whole back. Great.

[Musta10000]

I looked at the parts detail and I can see the lower clips as a separate part, but not the upper ones. I will check into to see if they are available as well. one would think so if the lower ones are.

[jmosk]

I looked at the parts detail and I can see the lower clips as a separate part, but not the upper ones. I will check into to see if they are available as well. one would think so if the lower ones are.

BMW only sells the entire seat back and not the top clips. They sell the bottom clips but they are useless as they sell only one part of that two-part clip. So don't bother ordering it from BMW. It is not the complete assembly. The Z8 seat also has two side clips which are not shown in the Z8 parts manual. There is a BMW dealer in Germany (see other seat back threads) who can get you 3D printed replacements for the top clips. Check out the other threads on this topic for more details. BMW sells the entire seat back assembly but their price was twice that of what can be purchased from BMW parts dealers. The seat backs (unpainted) are a little less than $500 each.

[Zeee 8]

BMW only sells the entire seat back and not the top clips. They sell the bottom clips but they are useless as they sell only one part of that two-part clip. So don't bother ordering it from BMW. It is not the complete assembly. The Z8 seat also has two side clips which are not shown in the Z8 parts manual. There is a BMW dealer in Germany (see other seat back threads) who can get you 3D printed replacements for the top clips. Check out the other threads on this topic for more details. BMW sells the entire seat back assembly but their price was twice that of what can be purchased from BMW parts dealers. The seat backs (unpainted) are a little less than $500 each.

Can someone help guide me to who, where and how I can get a set (6ea) or two of the plastic upper, lower and mid seat clips? I have one set if someone can duplicate them.

[Gwmckee]

I’m working with a guy now who can 3D scan the parts and then have them 3D printed an all different types of material (plastics, runners, even metals like stainless steel and aluminum). The first part he's making for me is the latch mechanism for the radio cover. If that goes well, I think it would be great if he tackled the seat back clips. He told me that once he has scanned the parts and created the file, he can have them printed on demand in any material we choose. It might make sense to have him scan each clip type so members can order whichever they need.

[macfly]

What an excellent idea, thank you!

[ron's rocket]

A source for 3D printed parts would be great...I've had those clips fall off from the failed factory glue, then break after I reinstalled them with epoxy. I'm using Velcro strips on the back of the seat with some limited success, but replacement clips are the way to go.