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    Tail lights

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    This week we finally received information from BMW regarding the future availability of backlights.

    BMW will continue to use the neon technology. A new supplier for the production of the neon tubes has been found. These new units should be available from May 2014 on.
    We appreciate that BMW will stay with the neon lights, which enables us to maintain our cars in original state in the long run.
    That solution, however, doesn't come cheap. Starting now BMW is charging € 3,000 per backlight.

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    3,000 Euros Ouch!!!!! -- BMW promises a 50-year part supply, but they didn't promise that the parts would be reasonably priced.
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    Holy #^%+%#!! That is highway robbery!!
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    The "good" news is that the new tail lights will be equipped with a newly designed control unit which will no more/less troubles.
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    At 3,000 Euros each, to replace both lights with labor you are looking at something like 9,000 USD. Sorry, I just don't get it. There has to be a way to fix an inoperable old unit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hayvenhurstkid View Post
    At 3,000 Euros each, to replace both lights with labor you are looking at something like 9,000 USD. Sorry, I just don't get it. There has to be a way to fix an inoperable old unit.
    I think there are enough units lying around to let some one try to design a new control unit. The strange thing about this story is that Osram in California designed the lights and Seima in Italy manufactured them. Osram is still existing as Osram Sylvania ( Orange County) en Seima is still existing and now part of Magneti Marelli but BMW does not take any action towards them but let us pay!
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    Frankly, if and when confronted with those kind of extortionist prices, I think I would go for the rebuilt/LED units which are available online for around $500.00 per unit. Purchasing one of these new neon units does not ensure you won't be looking at yet another replacement down the road. The neon technology would, in my opinion, have to be characterized as a failure.

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    Yes this was one of those things when I bought the car in 2000 I was wondering about and sadly has come to pass that the tech is too exotic / expensive. I agree for the purposes of having a functional car its better to with the lower cost option. I would suggest you never discard the original lights though. I think even non working units would be better to keep for authenticity purposes if/ when you go to sell the vehicle.

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    Good point. Too bad they didn't have the LED technology they have now when the Z8 was being built. They are doing some very cool stuff with LED lighting and it is pretty much bullet proof reliable. The neon is great looking but will fail with time. Some of the "new" units from BMW have been on the shelves for years so even if new could fail again fairly quickly. Make sure on a US car that if you have to buy a new unit, check the date of manufacture on the box.
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    I'd consider taking a failed neon light unit to a neon sign specialist to explore the possibility of recharging/replacing the tube with new gas.
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    The neon is great looking but will fail with time.
    The funny thing is that we don't have problems with the neon tail brake light and the neon blinker lights up front ??? So the neon technology shows after 13 years that it can work !
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    I do remember Jürgen showing me a place at the end of the tubes where there's a weak connection, and this is what it seems fails. We need his knowledge back badly, he knows more about our cars than anyone!
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    Honestly at that price, I think I'd just take the tickets and not use my blinkers. The cop would prob understand when I tell him a new one runs $3,000
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    I never even thought of that, what a good idea!! :-)
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    Great points Ton and Kevin. I'm with you both.

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    Isn't it brake lights and night time lights as well?

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    Yes, true, but I only ever drive mine in the day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by macfly View Post
    I do remember Jürgen showing me a place at the end of the tubes where there's a weak connection, and this is what it seems fails. We need his knowledge back badly, he knows more about our cars than anyone!
    I had lunch with Christian today. He reports that Jurgen may be coming back into the fold.
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    Sounds like good news!

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    Great news indeed!

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    I have just phoned my Uk dealer to see if the had any European rear lights and they have quoted me £2739.10 /$4547.

    Thank goodness the values of these amazing cars are going up !!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barneyboybmw View Post
    they have quoted me £2739.10 /$4547
    That is the new price ! I payed 2200 euro 6 months ago
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barneyboybmw View Post
    I have just phoned my Uk dealer to see if the had any European rear lights and they have quoted me £2739.10 /$4547.

    Thank goodness the values of these amazing cars are going up !!!!!
    I hope that is for the pair!
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    I appreciate the whole retro thing, but in hind sight, WTF was BMW thinking puting neon lights into a new century car? Why not just do gas powered lamps? While the world was moving ahead to a digital, technologically advanced future, they choose a 1950s beer sign to emulate?

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    Now that's funny!!!
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    >I hope that is for the pair!


    No just for 0ne!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barneyboybmw View Post
    >I hope that is for the pair!


    No just for 0ne!!
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    That is plain crazy. I replaced both of mine in the spring for under $3000.00 with help from BMW NA.
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    How about these LEDs? $1k a pair or $575 a piece? I like the neon better but $3,000 euros is over $4,000 EACH before installation. That's BS!

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    Why not just contact a neon sign manufacturer and have them custom make something in a group order?
    I see they sell complex neon signs complete for $300 or less even.

    http://www.arterneon.com/product.asp?cid=238&sid=597&pid=9747

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    We could certainly do it, there's no law that we have to buy from BMW, and if they charge stupid prices to intelligent people, intelligent people will seek out intelligent solutions.
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    Hey, I think we might have found the owner of the "Abandoned in Florida" car- look at the absolutely filthy Z8 used in the EBAY ad for the LED taillights! Hard to believe there could be two owners of these gorgeous cars that neglect them so badly. Or maybe people with Black cars just give up after a while once they realize it is impossible to keep a black car clean. Owners of Red cars would never allow this to happen.......

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    Black car owner speaks out

    I can think of at least five Northern California black Z8 owners and one in New York who are attentive to their car's appearance . See picture below post wash, surface cleaning with Klasse AIO and wax with Chemical Guys 50/50.

    Getting back on point, I'd be interested in tag teaming with someone on exploring having a neon sign manufacturer reproducing the tubes in the rear lights. The failure mode has to be the loss of neon gas over time. With that said, why couldn't the light tubes be recharged or replaced?

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    Not so sure it is loss of gas over time, or some other "weak link", but couldn't that be tested on a dead light?

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    The "new" lights only have a new control system. If the tubing was the problem it would have been handled too I think.

    BTW those lights look far more beautiful on the nicely cleaned black car than on a red car

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    Okay, I may have been wrong to assume that escaping neon gas over time is the root cause of our light failure. Here's an excerpt from Wikipedia taken today:

    "The greatest cause of neon tube failure is the gradual absorption of neon gas by high voltage ion implantation into the interior glass walls of the tubes which depletes the gas, and eventually causes the tube resistance to rise to a level that it can no longer light at the rated voltage, but this may take 7–10 years."

    and

    "The actual cause of 80% of neon sign failures is the burnout of the high voltage electrical wires connecting the tubes inside of metal conduits."

    Here's the link if anyone wants to take a deeper dive into neon lights.

    Neon sign - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I'm still interested in sending a failed light to a neon sign specialist to have their take on this situation.
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    Hi Ed,

    I am only assuming too, maybe the club can find out what the root problem is.
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    I do remember Jürgen showing me a failed connection at the end of one of the neon tubes some time ago. From memory it appeared as if it just came unsoldered over time, but I think it may only have been glued? Sadly I didn't document it it because it happened at the time that the Club was under Jürgen's guidance, and the plan was then to make our own replacements. Sadly that all got swept aside with all the problems that the trouble makers at the Club dreamt up.
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    I'm sorry but those LEDs are just hideous.

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    WOW! Neon! Old tech in a new application! I did not know they were neon but when I was considering on buying a Z8 and finally saw one up close I was certainly intrigued by the rear lights! Looked like neon but never thought they actually were ! Thought maybe a new application of LED or other new technology! I like it just hope they never go out ! ( hopefully someone comes up with a cheaper solution!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Z8Mania View Post
    I'm sorry but those LEDs are just hideous.
    I think if there is an alternative (LED or what ever) I still would buy the original neon for replacement. If you want to keep your car original than that is the only outcome.
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    I agree Ton. I also agree with Andrew that you can't expect intelligent people to pay absurd prices. So if I am BMW I should file the need to get new neon tail lights under "preservation of the Z8" and that falls under "protecting the brand". So if someone from BMW is reading this, I think it deserves your attention and hopefully action.

    Yeah, Eric, the neon lights are pretty cool! A novel approach on the Z8- an intriguing mix of classic and new styling and tech on the Z8.

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    Jerry the prices are ludicrous. IMO BMW should sell it on cost price and I think the club could be have a role in this matter.
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    I agree with you but what if the cost is quite a bit high?

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    BMW always sells parts with a profit margin of what ??? 20, 30% Without this margin the price goes from "ludicrous" to "steep" :-)
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    Im not so sure I agree. If BMW is selling the lights for $3,000 per pair, then removing the 30% markup makes them $2,100 a pair. That is still too expensive. I think rather than looking at these as a normal item, BMW should consider viewing these as a novel item for a novel vehicle that is now in their history and should be preserved. As such, I suggest matching the price to what a set of new rear tires costs which is about $750 in the most extreme case. I think that or maybe even $1,000 per pair of lights sounds like a fair price.

    However, on the other hand, I do appreciate that BMW is a business and seeking to make a profit.

    I just think in the end they will make more of a profit by protecting their heritage.

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    Drove behind a Jaguar F-type yesterday evening. The horizontal tail light looks somewhat like what we have on the Z8.
    The brake light on the other hand is a typical round LED unit. Wonder what technology Jaguar uses for their tail lights.
     
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    Now that looks like it has possibilities for us!
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    I believe this is a kind of light tube that BMW uses in their light clusters. I think it works with a kind of LED on the ends and then a fiber optic channel with a tint around it. I agree the look would work. And I also think the new F is great looking and has a lot of Z8 to it, especially the rear.

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    BMW should consider viewing these as a novel item for a novel vehicle that is now in their history and should be preserved.
    True words Jerry! I hope I am wrong but I am afraid this is only the beginning of a huge rise in prices for the Z8 specific parts. Horror for people who want to keep their cars original and a nuisance for people who just want to enjoy the car as it is. BTW it is 6000 euro a pair
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    That's around $10,000 fitted, which is a complete joke!
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    I think that I would potentially go LED with a hope that we would be able to find a more permanent solution longer term. I would be bummed to do it though. The neon is such a differentiator.

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    I agree if you have no choice then you have to go LED.

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    Question is - is $10k really an option?

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    It's an absurdity!
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    I always considered if one rear light went out I would replace both, but now I may have to change my strategy. In this replacing both scenario, I'm having a hard time getting my head around spending nominally 10% of my cars value on tail lights!
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    I know, you can buy a good S62 motor for that price!
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    Being such a limited production car that was very expensive new it is inevitable that as they age, parts will be harder to obtain and rise in price every year. I remember forty years ago when my father had both a 300SL coupe and roadster. Parts were mostly available and reasonably priced. Today it is next to impossible to find most parts, especially cosmetic ones, and prices are in the stratosphere. But, what do you expect when a car is worth over a million dollars.
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    Produced 5,703 units x $10,000 tail light replacement = $57 million dollar market. Someone will get the idea.
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    It is funny to read the press releases from when the car came out. They talked about the neon lights and how they were expected to last the life of the vehicle.

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    Wow, that's insane, $57,000,000, and that's just for the rear neons!
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    I just got an idea. Can we design it for half that? We could make some money.

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    Thinking ahead what other parts are going to escalate in price, headlights maybe? Might be worth buying these now just in case

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    Everything will escalate but it is usually trim items that go
    up the quickest. Mechanical parts seem to go up in price at a slower pace.
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    Here you can find out what still is in stock

    https://shop.bmw-classic.de/is-bin/I...RCH_AUTOMOBILE
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    Its not a bad idea, but I've found this can turn into a slippery slope where you end up with a ton of parts and then the ones you didn't think about are the ones that escalate even more.

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    I think you can a make difference between typical Z8 parts ( lights, interior trim etc) which are visually dominant and the rest. E.G I saw that the steering wheel for the topaz, stratos cars are not available anymore. You must not think of a MOMO steering wheel in the car :-) But you get a stockpile of which you will never know if you will need them.
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    I already have a ton of parts in my attic, and of course none that I'll be likely to need!
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    From thungsten to neon to led to laser ... where does it end ?



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    If BMW has their way, it never ends.

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    To confirm, just had one tail light replaced on our car, it was given to us at cost price (at least the dealer claimed that) and it cost approx $3700!(Including labor.)

    They did however do a few things for us as our service guy took pity on us, they fixed the trunk hydraulic arms that were faulty on our car and also fitted the performance package with subsidized labor costs. Consdering that they didn't have to do all that, thought it was a nice gesture on the dealers part.

    For reference, it was BMW Advantage Midtown in Houston.

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    Nicely done. Sometimes you will have to pay to keep these cars going.

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    Angry Tail Light Envy

    Now that is a lot more tail light to maintain. Aren't we glad Henrik went easy on the Z8?!
     
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    That AMG Vision Gran Touring Concept is really striking. I'm not sure I love it, but it certainly has a look.

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    I agree €3,000 for a tiny tail light is an insane amount of money. The problem is the very low production volume the manufacturer faces as it drip feeds these tail lights in the market. In this day and age tooling up to produce a handful of them costs about as much as it does to produce a large quantity. As it currently stands, we expect BMW to take the production risk in the hope there will be enough of us out there to buy them. The only way out of this trap would be for us to commit to a large order at once, that would sure push the price per unit way down. Since it seems like a foregone conclusion that soon or late all of our tail lights will fail we should consider getting together and see what kind of deal we would get if we were to commit to a bulk order.

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    Totally agree, however due to the unique nature of the lights being neon, do they deteriorate over time?

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    I think the ultimate solution will be the LED light bar you see on so many new high end cars. It looks very similar except for a slight segmentation in the tube lighting to the neon and should last for years.
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